Category Archives: Go Go Bars

Most go go bars in Pattaya are on Walking Street. Resembling in many ways American strip clubs they come in all flavors from upscale to some really down and dirty dives where it’s all hands on.

One good sex tourist is worth 100 Chinese tourists

One good sex tourist is worth 100 Chinese tourists for Thailand’s economy.  Take Big Bill for instance.

What one good sex tourist does for Thailand’s economy

Big Bill pays his Thai girlfriend 30000 baht  every month.  Which is slightly less than $1000 a month.  But now that Big Bill’s gone back to America for several months, she gets to stay in his condo.  The condo is 1400 square feet, has two bedrooms and two bathrooms.  His girlfriend, Noi, rented a 6000 baht room each month.  Which she shared with 2 other bar girls.

Big Bill has also bought a car.  And a Yamaha Nmax motorbike as well.  But now that he’s in America, Noi gets to use it everyday to transport herself back and forth to work.  Noi no longer has to work in the bar however.  And that’s because Big Bill is giving her almost $1000 a month.  She’s got a restaurant job now, which pays her 10,000 baht a month, which is enough to pay for all her expenses.   This leaves her with up to 30000 baht a month that she can use to support her family.  Which includes her mother and father, two sisters in their early teens, and her ten year old brother.  Not to mention her two daughters.

But Big Bill is much more than just one good sex tourist

He’s a superstar when it comes to fuel injecting Thailand’s economy.  Big Bill hired a Thai driver to drive him around in his car.  But since Big Bill’s large condo has two bedrooms, he allows his driver to stay in his spare bedroom.  So the Thai driver gets to stay in a beautiful condo for free.  While collecting a 15000 baht a month salary.

Big Bill also employs a Thai woman to clean his condo.  She comes nearly everyday.  And cleans for an hour or so.  Then she goes back to her regular job.  He pays her 5000 baht a month.

So how many Thais is this one good sex tourist supporting?

Starting with his Thai girlfriend, he’s supporting her, her mother and father, her two children,  one brother and two sisters.  Then he’s supporting his Thai driver and his young daughter.  And God knows how many extended family members the driver is helping out.  There’s the cleaning gal,  her two children, and her mother and father.    So he’s supporting at least 14 Thais.  But—keep in mind the ripple effect this all has on the Thai economy.  All these Thais he’s supporting are supporting other Thais.  Thais who own shops in the local markets.  The beautician who does his girlfriend’s hair.   Clothing vendors all of these Thais buy from.

Big Bill also spends a lot of money in Pattaya’s bars

One good sex tourist helps the go go girls
Big Bill’s considered as one good sex tourist in most of the go go bars he frequents.  This girl worked at Peppermint Go Go

Especially the go go bars.   He buys a lot of ladies drinks.  And each time he buys a go go dancer a drink. she’s getting a 50 baht commission from the bar she’s working for.  Oftentimes, Big Bill will take a wad of twenty baht bills and throw them at the go go girls.  Whether most of us consider Big Bill to be a fool is not the issue.  My point is he’s one good sex tourist.

Yeah, I know.   A lot of people think Big Bill’s a real fool.  But he’s got a huge heart.  And he knows that when he dies he can’t take it all with him.  But my whole point is this.  Who’s worth more to Thailand’s economy?  One good sex tourist like Big Bill?  Or 100 Chinese tourists?

So what are 100 Chinese tourists doing for the Thai economy?

First off most Chinese tourists go everywhere in large tour buses.  And these large tour buses are too much for most city streets in Thailand.  Such as Bangkok’s or Pattaya’s.   So they clog up the streets in the cities and slow traffic down to a snail’s pace.  These tour buses also kill and injure a lot of people because of the incompetence of so many of their drivers.

There’s nowhere to park all those large tour buses.  So their drivers park them all along the cities streets.

Road construction crews built all these traffic lanes to handle the needs of normal drivers.   And certainly not for bus parking lots.

Later on the passage way for cars will be severely constricted. The buses will be parked alongside both lanes.

What we have here it a wholesale constriction of entire cities roads.  Thanks to the huge proliferation of Chinese tourists.  And this proliferation is rapidly spinning out of control.

In fact, I might go so far as to say that the police and other authorities are selling entire traffic lanes so that the Chinese tour companies have a place to park their buses.

One good sex tourist worth more than Chinese tourists
Chinese tour bus parking lot. Notice how dangerous this situation is. Not to mention that the traffic is slowed down to a crawl. I was nearly hit by a car while turning left into the left traffic lane due to the buses taking up the entire lane of traffic.  Money is number one here.  Even at the expense of public safety.

But let’s get back to what 100 Chinese tourists really mean to the Thai economy.

Approximately 45 Chinese tourists  will fill up a single tour bus.  So it takes two large tour buses to hold 90 Chinese tourists.  Now just imagine how much traffic just two tour buses can screw up?  Or how many meters of a single street it takes to park just two tour buses?

How the Chinese Tour Bus System works

The average Chinese tourist doesn’t have a lot of money to spend.  So here’s that happens.  The typical Chinese tour company offers cut rate airfares to the droves of Chinese tourists now flocking to Thailand.  So let me float out an arbitrary number out there.  “How does $150 airfare sound to you, from Shanghai to Bangkok and Pattaya?  Sounds good doesn’t it?  Let’s now tack on another $75.00 for five nights in a hotel and total transportation costs by tour bus.  That’s a total of just $225.00.

But there’s a catch.  And that is you must stay with your tour bus group.  Well, even if you don’t, without your tour leader you will be lost in a city such as Pattaya or Bangkok.  You can’t speak a word of Thai and chances are your English skills are absolutely worthless.

So the tour bus takes you everywhere.  And your fearless leader, your tour leader makes sure that you spend all your money in just the right places.

These are the places that will give your fearless leader a commission on every shirt, every pair of pants, every vase, every lunch or dinner that you now have to pay for out of your own pocket.

One good sex tourist worth 100 Chinese tourists
An entire traffic lane sold to Chinese tourists who are gathering around a gerry-rigged noodle stand.  I don’t want to hear any more b.s. about improving the public transportation system here.  Perhaps One good sex tourist is worth 1000 of these Chinese tourists?  The key is to require all tour buses to immediately discharge all tourists at whatever hotel they are staying in.  And then have the buses  leave town.  The Chinese tourists will then have to use baht buses, their own two legs, private taxis etc to get around just like all the other tourists do.  This will also help these Chinese tourists because it frees them from their manipulative tour leaders.

So the little makeshift noodle shops are now springing up everywhere.  These are the places your fearless leader will be taking you.

As for me, or my German, or even my Russian friends.  None of us would ever be caught dead eating in these low life restaurants with their cardboard walls and cheap tin corrugated roofs.

One good sex tourist worth more than 100 Chinese tourists
This building is a real fleabag operation. No self respecting Thai would ever eat here.

As for well established businesses here in Pattaya such as Pattaya to U (for computer repair) or Best Camera Shop at Tuk.com.  Do you think these places will be getting any Chinese dollars?  Never.  And neither is the Naklua Pen Bar whose clientele is mostly German, American and English.  Or a lot of good restaurants such as Heidelburg, Tavern, Robin Hood, Queen Victoria.

And speaking of Pen Bar, I have a little story on this one.

Now I’ve known Pen for 12 years now.  She’s Thai and she really knows how to run a bar.

In comes a single solitary Chinese guy.  Pen asks him if he wants a beer.  The Chinese replies no.  He must wait for his fearless tour guide leader to arrive with the rest of the tour group.  Meanwhile a group of Germans are sitting at the bar.  Who are buying their Heinekens for 90 baht a bottle.

Finally the fearless  leader of the tour group arrives.

“How much are you selling your beer for?” the Chinese fearless leader asks Pen.

“90 baht” Pen replies.

“I’ll bring my entire tour group in if you sell everyone bottled beer for 145 baht,” the fearless leader offers.  “You and I can split the 55 baht so we each get 27 baht,” he adds.

The problem is Pen is an honest Thai lady and she wants no part of this arrangement.  The tour group’s fearless leader immediately departs taking his Chinese horde with him.

So what happens to all those commissions the Chinese tour group leaders are getting?

Most of it’s going to their big bosses over in China.  And this is how they are able to offer such cut rate  air fares and hotel prices to all these Chinese armies of tourists who are inundating Bangkok and Pattaya.

Rich people here in Thailand are getting even richer because of all this monkey business.  While the common everyday Thai of little to modest means is getting screwed.  He gets to put up with all the horrible traffic these tour buses are causing.  He gets to see all these Chinese tourists dirty up his beaches, and his city’s parks, while they piss all over his sidewalks.

Think I’m joking?

I remember sitting at the Pen Bar one night when a single Chinese came into the small bar complex’s parking lot.

There’s a public restroom he could have used for just 5 baht.  But he either didn’t know about it or simply didn’t care.  So right at the far end of the parking lot he unzipped his pants and urinated right on the pavement.  This was just thirty meters from all of us.  In full view of the entire bar.  I couldn’t restrain myself.  And screamed  out to him, “Asshole.  You are a fucking idiot.”  Thais lose respect for someone who loses his temper.  But not this time.  The entire bar applauded when I called  the Chinese out for being a dirty pig.

I consider the Khao Kheow Zoo to be Pattaya’s best kept secret. It’s just 60 kilometers from Pattaya. And it’s so large you really need a golf kart to get around this zoo. Most Pattaya Hotels, tourist and agencies don’t even advertise it. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of great parks and zoos here. But all that advertising goes to the Crocodile Farm, The Elephant Village and the Tiger Zoo which is also in Siracha. But trust me, this zoo in the absolute finest of them all by a long shot. In our little group we have two of our Thai girlfriends. And my two pals, one from Norway and the other from England. The rest of the Caucasians in this magnificent setting are Russians.

I much prefer the Russian tourists now.  They go about their business as individuals, couples or small groups.   I think most Americans perceive Russians as barbarians or unthinking nitwits.  But I’ll tell you what.  Go to Koh Larn Island.  Or the the Siracha Khao Kheow Zoo..  You see white people, and I’ll just about guarantee that they are Russian.  The rest of us?  We Americans, Englishmen, Germans, Norwegians, etc?  You will find us in the bars.  With not a lot going on upstairs.  But I’m finding out that most of these Russians are go getters.  And they sure aren’t using the tour buses.  Like those lackeys following their Chinese tour leaders around.

But One good sex tourist, cultured or not, is worth more than 100 Chinese tourists.

 

 

 

Bar girl excuses from Pattaya go go girls that will make you laugh

Out of  all the Hilarious bar girl excuses from Pattaya Go Go girls to avoid long time sex this one had me rolling on the floor with laughter.   Even though Pattaya go go girls are especially notorious for cheating their customers out of what they have paid for, this incident still churns my stomach.    The bar, the mamasan and the go go girl all conspired to cheat my friend.   Who paid 4300 baht for long time but ended up getting the shaft.

When a man pays for long time, this means he’s paying for an all nighter for the bar girl he’s bar fining.  Not for 3 hours of monkey business.

But when he pays for short time sex, he’s typically paying for a half an hour to 3 hours with the bar girl he’s bar fining. I am now going to make a few generalizations to distinguish between beer bar girls and Pattaya go go girls.  In general when a man buys a beer bar girl out of the bar,  she’s hoping to spend the entire night with him.  One reason for this is the bar girl hopes he will like her enough to hire her out for a week, a month, a year, or a lifetime.  The typical beer bar girl hopes to provide security for her family for the long haul.  So if she can get a steady income of 15000 to 30000 baht every month from a falang, she’s achieving her goal.  Because now she is able to send 5000 to 20000 baht a month to her Mama and Papa.  And oftentimes her brothers, the Thai boyfriend she’s hiding away in the village, etc.

What this amounts to is long term job income for family members who are unable or unwilling to work

But Walking Street go go girls operate in a totally different manner.  First off, most of their customers are tourists.  And tourists are idiots who don’t know any better.   But a lot of expats who live full time in Pattaya visit the beer bars.  Or men who keep making multiple visits to Pattaya, who have been around and seen a lot.  This is why so many beer bar girls view so many customers as long term prospects.  And go go girls view customers as short term visitors who they are likely to never see again.

Again, I’m generalizing.  But go go girls act as birds of prey.  Behaving as predators zooming down on their hapless victims. Their goal is to extract as much money in the shortest amount of time from their victims.  So when they go long time with a customer, they want to spend as little time with him as possible.  And the last thing she wants to do is to spend the entire night with him.

Keep in mind that money is number one.

bar girl excuses for Money Number One
If you are going to have anything to do with Thai women, especially bar girls you need this book. It’s the bible. In Money Number One Neil Hutchison tells it like it is. Which has royally upset many Thais who complained so much about Neil’s cartoons that the main book stores here such as Asia books have taken it off their shelves.  But if you are a tourist you already know everything, don’t you?  Look at it this way.  See the funny old fart in the cartoon.  This is you.

So the typical go go girl doesn’t care about how badly she behaves.  After all, tourists are here today and gone tomorrow.   Whereas your typical beer bar girl views her customers as long term prospects who can provide life long security for her family.  Money is still number one.  It’s just that the beer bar girl is looking long term.  And the go go girl is looking only for the short term.  Just keep in mind that bar girl excuses is in their dna wherever you find them.

Let’s now laugh at all the bar girl excuses go go girls make to avoid having to spend the entire night with their victims

One of their favorite excuses is “I have to go home early.  I must go home to take care of my baby.”

 This is total horseshit.
Out of all the bar girls I’ve met,  only one of them had her child staying with her in Pattaya.  And she was from Laos.  Which meant that she had no family living in Thailand that she could lean on.  Almost all Thai bar girls have their momma and papa or sister taking care of their babies up in the village.  Chances are Momma and Papa are too frail to work.  Or there’s hardly any employment for them in the village.  So they might as well take care of the children.  Otherwise they are as useless as tits on a boar when it comes to the grand scale of bar girl-Thai family economies.
But the bar girl is still young and vigorous and she’s got that gilded pussy that we all want.   Chances are she’s renting a room for 5000 to 10000 baht a month and she’s got one or two roommates to share the expense with.

Here’s another classic example  of  bar girl excuses that the average tourist is totally naive about

The customer’s in the room with the girl he’s just bar fined.  After having sex a single time, the bar girl gets a phone call from one of her accomplices.
She utters:  “Oh tilak.  My friend me.  Lose key.  I have.  My friend me cannot get in room.  I must give now.  So sorry tilak.  I want stay with you so much.”
You are going to have to pay high drink prices here. But you won’t be paying any bar fines. Do expect to hear the usual bar girl excuses here. It’s the same everywhere. After all, it’s in their DNA
The bar girl typically does this at 2 or 3 in the morning.  Then she pockets the money you just gave her so that she can visit a Thai karioke bar to meet with her Thai boyfriend.  Or even worse, so that she can take your money to pay a very attractive Thai man to have sex with her.  Or–so that she can go to Club Insomnia, Lucifers Bamboo Bar or other disco so that she can now pick up another customer.  This time as a free lancer.
Personally I think I’d enjoy going here to meet the women. The problem is, one has to be a vampire because discos such as Insomnia are for night owls. They open late and stay open late. One avoids the bar fines. Many go go dancers come here for one last trick after you pay high dollar for their services. I’d enjoy the hunt. I just can’t stay out late and get up too early in the morning to play Count Dracula.

 But this latest line of bull pales compared to the line of horse shit a Walking Street go go girl fed one of my friends last night.

My pal’s first mistake is, he negotiates with the Mamasan.  This is at Super Girls Go Go Bar.  Now my first rule is to never ever negotiate with the mamasan.   First off she’s going to be getting a commission from the go go girl you are bar fining.  So it’s in mamasan’s best interest to set your price as high as possible.
There’s a short time room down the street that charges 350 baht for 2 hours.   Then there’s the 600 baht bar fine he has to pay Super Girls.  But my friend wants the intimacy of his hotel room.  He wants the girlfriend experience.  And unknown to me he wants long time instead of short time.  This means an all-niter. But he makes a mistake and this is to pay the mamasan.
The way it should work is the customer pays the bar fine to the go go bar while he negotiates a price that is acceptable to both the girl and himself.

If I ever have a mamasan try to interfere between me and the girl I’m bar fining, I tell her.  “Look.  I”m fucking her.  Not you.”

So the three of us head down to Pattaya Tai where we board a baht taxi to Naklua.  I drive my motorcycle that I’ve parked in the hotel’s parking lot back to my condo.  While my friend and his short time girl go up to his room at Lek Villa Hotel.
My friend’s room is on the 4th floor and he has his windows and door open to the balcony to let the fresh ocean breeze in. He has sex with the go-go girl and then he goes to sleep. One or two hours later the girl wakes him up. She has shut the door to the balcony and closed the window, but she hasn’t turned the air conditioner on.

She cries out, “Mosquitoes, Mosquitoes too much.” Then she shows him a pimple on her ass, and tells him, “I cannot sleep because of the mosquitoes so I must go home (to my Thai boyfriend or disco such as Lucifers, Tony’s, Insomnia, Marine, etc to pick up still another paying customer).

This really pisses off my friend who by now cannot wait to get rid of the bitch so he tells her,
“I’ve had enough of your pathetic bar girl excuses.  Go, get out of here. Next time I don’t go to your go-go bar. I go to Beach Road for good lady for just 500 baht.”
I recall his saying he paid her 3500 baht for the long time plus the 600 baht bar fine plus another 300 baht to the mamasan for setting up such a great deal for him.
But trust me, his experience is all too typical for Walking Street Go-Go girls.
I remember a friend of mine who paid 2000 baht to a Living Dolls go go girl expecting to have her spend all night with him, but she kept telling him, “ such typical bar girl excuses as  “I cannot sleep. You snore too much. I must go home” (to Thai husband).
There are three lessons to be learned here. Number one–Do not go to go-go bars, number 2. If you must–never have the mamasan or waitress negotiate the price for you. She will try to get the highest dollar for the girl at your expense, and 3. Never pay for sex in advance. Negotiate your price and then pay the girl when she leaves you or you have finished doing what the two of you agreed on. If she falls asleep on you without performing don’t pay her.  And if a girl cheats you out of a long time by going short time, pay her only for the short time.  Last, but not least, be ready for the usual  bar girl excuses.  Trust me, they are coming your way.
Above all, do not believe all the bar girl excuses.  And trust in one thing.  “You can always tell when a bar girl is lying when her lips are moving.
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Walking Street Doll House vs Annabelle Go Go Bars Golden Pussy

Here’s the good, bad, and ugly of Doll House vs Annabelle Go Go Bars Golden Pussy shakedown.

The G spot is the Golden Pussy

Background

Three of Pattaya Walking Street’s Premier go go bars have completed a transformation over the past two weeks. The same company has owned the Doll House Pattaya, G-Spot,  Electric Blue, and  Doll House Bangkok . Until now. Then the G-Spot which had been our favorite split from its sister clubs to become Annabelles with a new management team. During the same month the venerable Windmill Club has been closed by the police for a month.

Personally I don’t care for the Windmill Club. I started calling it a Dirty Old Man’s Paradise ever since I saw an old fart sticking his hands into every orifice of one of the dancers there. Perhaps more than any single go go bar on Walking Street the Windmill has earned the Golden Ring Award for relentless hands on debauchery and dildo pussy thrusting.

This time the Windmill committed the unpardonable sin of allowing one of its customers to boom boom one of its girls in an upstairs short time room.  In came the police to catch the man with his pants down and his dick hanging out.

Which brings us to last night

go go girl who's not showing her Golden Pussy

Billy Bob and I started out at the Doll House. Several of the prettiest girls at the G-spot quit as soon as the new owners took over and renamed the place Annabelles Go Go.  I found them at Doll House last night and I have to say that the Doll House had the purdiest group of girls I’ve seen in a go go bar for a coons age.  Several of the sexiest girls wasted no time  and  joined Billy Bob and me in the peanut gallery.

I bought a few tequilas for two of the girls who hung with me until Billy Bob and I headed out to Annabelles. I promised to return to “my two girls” after half an hour or so.

Annabelles was completely packed with customers.

We couldn’t find a table but the mamasan, who oftentimes hung around with us, soon found seating arrangements for us.

There were over thirty go go dancers up on that stage.  Billy Bob told me most of the girls were from the Windmill Club who had suddenly found themselves out of work. And with them came many Windmill customers. I suddenly had to face  the thing I had hated the most about the Windmill Club.  It had far too many customers. The place was always uncomfortably crowded.  And there were never nearly enough girls to go around.

The Windmill was well known for having some of the cheapest beer on Walking Street.  But the fact is, cheap drink prices always brought in the riff raff.  And believe me, Annabelles was super saturated tonight with cheap charlies.  This was definitely not my kind of crowd.  As for the girls, most were nothing to write home about. The club had also changed its music to that electro crap I call Da Da music.

Back at the Doll House

they had been playing a lot of really good music for a change. I had just one bottle of San Miguel Light at Annabelles which set me back a whopping 170 baht. This was just plain inexcusable. Hordes of customers had come in.  The place was crowded with imbeciles who simply didn’t know any better. I left for the greener pastures of the Doll House where I rejoined the two sexy women who had sat with me earlier.

I have known one of the two girls for nearly two years now.  She has a very pretty face and a very fine ass.  She knows it too.  And she uses every opportunity to stick that fine ass of hers in my face. The thing I like about her best is for a Thai bar girl she’s a straight up kind of gal who calls a spade a spade. The other girl, who I’ve started calling the little sister, has great breasts, and a nice shape. I’ve only had her sitting with me only once before. I found her to be quite cuddly and kissable.

Both girls wanted me to bar fine them.

I would have bar fined the “older sister”, but when the mamasan told me the bar fine was now 1100 baht, I told the mamasan and both girls that there was no way I would ever pay a thousand baht bar fine.

I found out the reason for the bar fine going up from 900 to 1100 baht

was the girls were now dancing totally nude. Which comes down to this. Before Christmas bar fines for Electric Blue, the Doll House and the G spot had been 800 baht.  But over the Christmas holidays the clubs upped their bar fines to 900 baht, and never lowered them once the Christmas gouging season had ended. Now they had gone up to 1100 baht due to most of the Doll House girls now dancing totally nude.  I was plain disgusted, and so were many of the girls who were not getting bar fined much.

What’s good about Go Go Bars Golden Pussy?

For one thing you get to see exactly what you are getting. And let’s face it, although a lot of guys like big tits, it’s the pussy you are fucking or eatin.  And silicon tits are the worse kind of tits. Most of them are shapeless. They are hard and they taste terrible. Now take a girl with small tits. A girl with small tits can really feel them being titillated. When she gets excited her tits expand in your mouth. You can feel her nipples harden with your tongue. But best of all, especially with Thai women, girls with small tits tend to be slimmer and more active. But it’s the golden pussy that sends me to the stratosphere.

Some girls got the golden pussy. Others don’t. And when you watch the go go dancers up on stage you can immediately tell who’s got the soft flabby pussies and who’s got the tight little teen age girl vaginas.

But I already know that the “older sister” has got a golden pussy. I went down there too many times before.  I have to admit that she looks great up on stage showing off that Golden Pussy of hers.  But I haven’t been down on the little sister, at least not just yet. Her box looks promising enough. I often like calling a woman’s vagina her box because pussy sounds so crass.

Mikos not here tonight. And neither is Frog Face.

Thank God. Maybe they have both started working back at Annabelles where they belong.

Both girls are disappointed that I’m not bar fining them. But I’m sharing with them certain ideas of mine that I think both of the girls will like. They’ve been talking animatedly together about what I’m suggestin to them.  Their animated voices and body language tell me that Big Sister wants to share me with Little Sister and that she’s tellin the younger girl what a great guy I am.

I finally check bin. My bottle of beer comes out to 150 baht which is 20 baht less than they are charging down at Annabelle’s.

It’s time to wrap this review up. Here’s the good, bad and the ugly about both clubs.

The Doll House

The good

• Has a wonderful manager in Lenny who used to manage at all three clubs, Electric Blue, the Doll House, and G spot.
• They stopped playing that horrible da da electro crap that so many clubs are passing off as music and are now playing real music with a great beat.
• Beers are cheaper at 150 baht.
• The girls are some of the sexiest on Walking Street
• Showing off golden pussy so that the discriminating male of exquisite tastes can make an informed decision on what he’s buying.
• Happy hour prices for certain drinks between 8:30 pm at 10. For example gin and tonics are just 75 baht each.

The Bad

• Using Golden Pussy full nudity as an excuse for raising the bar fine from 900 baht to 1100 baht.

The Ugly
• Displaying ugly genitalia

Annabelles

The Good

• One of the mamasans is a lot of fun and she’s actually quite cuddly.
• Some of the old staff members who have always treated us well are still here.
• Still hands on. Especially for all those dirty old man types who were frequenting the Windmill.
• Happy hour prices for certain drinks between 8:30 pm at 10. For example gin and tonics are just 75 baht each.

The Bad

• The girls for the most part are only so so. Just like the Windmill bar girls used to be
• The place is far too crowded
• Bar fines are now 1000 baht for short time sex and 1500 baht for long time
• Management is now pressuring the girls to spend more time up on the stage and not enough time one on one with their customers.

The Ugly

• Beers are now 170 baht per bottle. This is downright inexcusable.