Pattaya clip joints are go go bars which relentlessly pressure their customers to buy lady’s drinks at high prices. Over the past few years Pattaya go go bars have entered a downward spiral that offer their customers the worse of all worlds.
First off, there’s the drinking experience itself in which go go dancers descend upon their customer victims like vultures whose single minded goal is to extract as many high priced drinks from each customer victim as possible. Then there’s the sexual experience, which if there is any, is about the highest priced one can find in a city that offers so many better options. Lastly there’s the main reason that attracts so many men to Pattaya in the first place which is to empower one’s manhood. More often than not, the customer feels so taken advantaged of that he feels as if he’s been de-balled.
I want to describe this form of clip joint activity in three steps. 1. How go go bars used to be run in the good old days, 2. How they are run now, and 3. What recently happened to me at a Pattaya Go Go bar that is far from Walking Street and much closer to Sois 7 and Soi 5.
1. The way things used to be in the good old days
A few years ago, when I went to go go bars, the basic concept of ladies drinks was to break the ice between a go go girl whose English skills were usually not very good and prospective customers wishing to buy her out of the bar. Whether in Bangkok or in Pattaya the scenario went like this:
A customer comes into the go go bar. The girls dancing on the stage are all wearing numbers. When the customer is interested in one of the girls he either gets her attention by motioning her to come over and have a drink with him or he tells a waitress or the mamasan to have number 17 (for example) to join him for a drink. The girl soon joins him for a drink. The potential customer will then often negotiate a price with her for either short time or long time. This was usually around 1000 baht although I’ve had a couple go go girls willing to go home with me for 500 baht.
If a waitress or mamasan entered into such discussions at all it was usually to interpret for the customer what the go go girl was telling him or explaining to the go go girl what the customer was saying. Back in those good old days, the waitresses and mamasans would typically leave the negotiated price between the customer and the girl.
This is what we looked forward to in the old days when the promises of the Man Tour experience also applied to the Pattaya go go bars.
Although Pattaya is still probably the best place to be on earth for all those boy-girl adventures we all dream about, most go go bars have become Pattaya clip joints.
2. In the new clip joint era of today
The customer gets absolutely the worse drinking–female companionship type of experience one can possibly imagine. Sadly the go go bars here have become Pattaya clip joints. Thanks to the coyote bar girl epidemic taking over Pattaya go go bars, customers are constantly being pummeled to buy one ladies drink after another at a machine gun pace.
The go go girls typically have 10 day contracts with the go go bars that require the girls to sell at least 50 ladies drinks every 10 days. So here you are in one of the Pattaya clip joints. You are out with several friends wanting to have a relaxing night out on the town. You probably also are wanting to take an attractive girl home with you to empower your manhood. Our tour guide told us was the best thing about Thai women when I first visited Thailand with the Man Tour was that Thai women empowered a man’s manhood.
But that was 12 years ago.
Today in most of Pattaya’s go go bars the customer winds up having his manhood dismembered. He winds up feeling humiliated while his wallet has a deep hole in it.
Here’s what happens. Especially if he’s assessed by the mamasan or go go dancers as being new to the go go scene. The first girl descends on him like a bird of prey. What happens next is that either the girl, waitress, or mamasan immediately asks him to buy a ladies drink. This is typically synthetic orange juice. Since there’s no alcohol in it the girl can easily consume practically unlimited quantities of such cheap stuff at 140 baht or more a pop. The next step is for the mamasan or waitress to ask the victim for a ladies drink also. Chances are the customer has ordered a beer for himself at say 140 baht so when he buys the waitress and the bar girl one ladies drink each he’s out 420 baht already.
At this point he’s only five minutes into this ball game.
So what happens next?
The go go girl’s sister makes an immediate appearance. The go go girl now asks him: “Buy drink for sister me?” Chances are the go go girl’s English is absolutely dreadful so if you think you are going to get any fun filled dialogue out of these girls, forget it. So you buy the sister (who 90 percent of the time is not the girl’s sister) an orange juice looking ladies drink. You are now out nearly 600 baht.
The object of your fond desires now asks you for a second ladies drink. If you politely refuse she will most likely leave you within the next 10 minutes so to keep the ball game in play you comply hoping you are going to have sex with her later on. By this time you are buying yourself a second beer or a Tequila.
Within the first 20 minutes your bar bill is over 1000 baht. For this kind of money you could already be banging a Soi Six girl, but never mind. If you are onto the fact that this is their ball game and not yours, you indicate to the girl, waitress or mamasan that you want to make boom boom with the girl.
Now comes the bad news.
It’s before midnight. The go go bar wants the girl to get even more ladies drinks out of suckers like you. So her bar fine is 1500 baht. You are also informed that you must pay at least 2000 baht just to short time the girl. You can wait for midnight to come of course and then you will be getting this magnificent deal of getting to bar fine this vulture for just 1000 baht.
But if you stay at this go go bar until midnight chances are you will be paying a lot more than the 500 baht you would be saving by going after the cheaper bar fine. Say you go for it and decide to bar fine her straight off.
Let’s see. You’ve probably already run a drink tab of at least 1000 baht. You wind up having to pay a 2000 tip to the girl for sex and you get to pay the bar a 1500 baht bar fine. So you wind up paying 4500 baht for just one hour of sex and you might just have to pay at least 300 baht for a short time room on top of all that. Your total price for having sex with this women amounts to 4800 baht which comes out to about $140.00 in American money.
And if this is not bad enough, she now either can go back to the go go bar to find another sucker like you or she will go back to celebrate with her Thai boyfriend. And trust me, over 90 % of all Pattaya go go girls have Thai boyfriends.
3. In the go go bar that’s between Soi 5 and Soi 7.
You can take the girls to an upstairs room for 500 baht here. So the convenience here is much better than it is down on Walking Street. There’s also no bar fine per se. Which is a big plus.
Over one year ago I banged my first and only go go girl from this particular establishment. The girl asked 1000 baht for short time sex. But when I pointed out to her that the price of the room was 200 baht too high compared to the competition I got her to ask me just 800 baht for her tip.
But a few months after that I heard that this go go bar was charging 1500 baht for bar fines. So I later asked the go go bar owner what the club’s policy was on bar fines and what I must pay to have sex with the girls. I understood the man to tell me that customers had to pay 500 baht to use the upstairs rooms, but as for what the go go girls got for their “tips” this was a matter that was strictly between them and their customers. So–if a girl was happy with getting 1000 baht from me such as the girl I had taken upstairs before, that was fine with this go go bar owner.
Several weeks later, I had one of the girls drinking with me.
I offered her 1000 baht to have sex with her. And if she didn’t speak English well enough to understand me, I made it very clear that I’d be paying the bar 500 baht for the room upstairs and 1000 baht to her by making repeated hand signals and gestures towards her and the upstairs. She agreed to my offer so I told the mamasan that I was paying my bill and bar fining the girl. The mamasan then presented me a bill that included the girl’s tip at 2000 baht.
“No, No, No.” I told the mamasan. “I pay the girl. We already decide on my tip for boom boom.” This is unacceptable to the mamasan who insists that I must pay the bar instead of the girl for sex. So I tell the mamasan, “Big boss tell me that I pay tip to the girl. Girl and I already decide how much I must pay her. Let me speak to the owner.”
“Owner not here now,” the mamasan tells me. You pay this much, which she’s showing me on my bin.” “Okay. Not take lady,” I tell the mamasan. I pay only my bin for drinks (which is about 1000 baht). I end up settling my bar bill of 1000 baht and promptly leave the place.
Two weeks later. There’s a shapely go go girl I’m attracted to
who’s nearly five feet eight inches tall. I’m pretty hot on her. She’s sat with me a couple of times before.
Only a few days ago, I had talked to the bar owner again–this time about the incident where a mamasan horned in on my 1000 baht arrangement with one of his girls. “Oh, we have a 1500 baht minimum” he told me. This is because when a girl charges less for her tip the other girls get angry with her. So to eliminate this problem all the girls must now charge at least 1500 baht.
I want the tall girl so I’ve made up my mind that I will tip her 1500 baht.
As soon as I enter the go go bar another girl takes me inside and she’s very pretty. But about the time the girl sits next to me, the tall girl comes up to us. I tell the new girl “I love her too much,” while pointing at the 172 centimeter tall girl. The new girl immediately backs off which leaves me with the object of my fondest desires. Billy Bob’s with me also and I’ve already told him, “I got a bad feeling about this one. I will pay her 1500 baht and not one baht more. I think this is just another one of Pattaya clip joints. Just like the ones on Walking Street.
Right off the girl asks me to buy her a tequila and an orange.
“What?” I ask her. You want two drinks? One orange and one tequila?
“No. Together,” she tells me.
I’m totally confused. Is she having a little orange mixed with her tequila?” I ask myself. “Because surely she’s not so greedy as to ask me to pay for two drinks at the same time.
This place is certainly starting to smell like all those other Pattaya clip joints ”
But I’m wrong. She’s that greedy. I order for myself a bottle of beer. My bar bill’s already 441 baht. I gotta get busy.
“You must sell 50 drinks in 10 days,” I ask her.
“Yes.”
“Bingo.” Now I’m 100 percent certain that this is just another example of the Pattaya clip joints that is ruining this city. I got a coyote bar girl in my lap now,” I tell myself. “The number one species of vultures of all vultures here in Pattaya. That explains this place now.”
“So, if I buy you one ladies drink for 140 baht you keep the entire 140 baht?” I ask her.
“No. I sell 51 drinks then I get blah blah blah blah.”
I”m totally confused now. And I really don’t care. She’s a vulture and that’s all there is to it.
“I want another drink”
“Not yet. I want boom boom you. I give you 1500 baht short time. Okay?
“I want 2000 baht.”
“1500 baht. Okay.”
“Other men in bar are tourists. Me same same khun Thai. I get discount so I pay you 1500 baht.”
I now pull out my wallet and show her my Thai driver’s license.
“See, khun Thai. Not tourist.”
By now the waitress arrives to charge me for my drinks and bar fine. The waitress tells me, “You must pay her 2000 baht.”
“If she agrees with me for 1500 baht this is okay with Big Boss I tell the waitress. And this time the owner is there right across the room from us. I mention his name to the waitress.
“He not big boss,” the waitress tells me.
“Well who is?” I tell myself. Certainly not his Thai girlfriend. It is this falang who is paying the bills and not his destitute Thai girlfriend. But so it is with most of these Thais. Falang only must pay money. He have no rights. Dog is more important than him.”
The deal is off. This one’s a greedy bitch.
Her ordering two drinks at the same time proves it. Would she have gone upstairs with me for 1500 baht had the waitress not interfered? Who knows. Call it 50-50. I tell the girl that I will be boom booming someone else within the next hour or so and that I will be paying the girl just 1000 baht.
She says: “You angry with me?”
“No,” I tell her. “Not angry. You very pretty lady but I never even pay as much as 1500 baht. I not same same as other customers in this bar”
So I leave and Billy Bobs still with me. Except I forgot to mention something. I’ve just done a huge favor for Billy Bob and he’s so happy that he’s already offered to pay for my boom boom with the tall lady. I had told Billy Bob that I would accept his offer but that I’d never pay the tall go go girl 2000 baht. Billy Bob then said it didn’t matter. He’d gladly pay 2000 baht for my boom boom. Or even more.
But I gots my pride. Billy Bob and I move onto another bar. It’s on Soi Six.
A pretty girl greets me at the bar entrance.
She’s short whereas the go go girl was very tall for a Thai woman at just under five foot eight. This one’s barely over my waist. But she’s cute, and already she’s cuddling up next to me. Right off she gets me a beer and doesn’t even ask me for anything for herself. Within five minutes she’s massaging my dick and here she hasn’t even asked me for a drink.
I get her a drink. Because she deserves one. Plus, I will probably be boom booming her pretty soon so I want her to have enough alcohol in her so that she really feels like empowering my manhood. We have a couple drinks together while I’m getting this wonderful massage right where it counts, plus she’s kissing me all over my face. But such is life n the promised land. This place is certainly not one of those infamous Pattaya clip joints
I take her upstairs, but
so far I’ve only had to pay the 300 baht room charge that goes to the bar plus the drinks.
She’s happy with my promise to pay her 1000 baht. She takes a shower in the room, then I take a shower. When I come out of the shower she’s already lying in the bed with her legs wide open inviting me in.
When we finally go back downstairs together Billy Bob’s still sitting where we had left him.
“Been waiting for long?” I ask Billy Bob.
“Only an hour and fifteen minutes,” he replies.
“You gotta be shitting me.”
“No. It might have even been longer.”
“We must have tried just about every position, and not just once but twice. And you know what, Billy Bob? I was thinking you the entire time. This means so much to me your paying for this fuck. I will treasure this moment for the rest of my life.”
That last example of the go go epidemic of Pattaya clip joints ripped me off for the last time.
I’d rather go to a beer bar every time. Even if the girls are butt ugly,
they are happy just to have me get them just one drink. And oftentimes they are massaging my back or legs while we are drinking together. Drinks are typically 90 baht. I even know of one beer bar where the gin and tonics are just 60 baht.
And as for the Soi Six bars? Most of them ask about 90 baht for a bottle of beer. And you aren’t getting high pressured to buy girls all those drinks. The goal of most of the girls on Soi Six is to convince you to take them upstairs as soon as they can get you in the mood. And once they do get you up there, their next goal is to make you so happy that you will be coming back to them again and again.
So my advice to all of you reading these words of advice is to leave all the go go bars alone. With the possible exception that is when go go bar 1. Does not persistently hound you with all those coyote girl vultures and 2. Leaves it entirely between you and the girl what you agree on for her tip if you short time or long time her.
The Sequel to the go go bar between Sois 5 and 7
If one calls me a cheap charlie for tipping the first girl just 800 baht over a year ago, I have this to say. First…..After boom booming her several weeks later I sat at the bar alone where she joined me. I bought her a couple of drinks. Then I told her I was heading out to Walking Street. But she sat there in my arms, happy to be having a drink or two and in my company. Then she disappeared.
Later when I was carousing with Billy Bob on Walking Street a wholesome looking girl yelled out my name
in the middle of Walking Street. So I walked back to her. The girl asks me to join her at a new go go in Walking Street she had just started working for. She looked very familiar to me, and she was just, nice. Not at all like most go go girls.
I told her I’d see her soon and then Billy Bob and I went into Super Girls. I had just one beer there as I pondered where I had known the mystery girl from. And then it dawned on me. She was the go go girl I had once boom boomed on Soi 6 for 800 baht. After having just one beer at Super Girls I went joined my friend at the new go go bar where we had a few drinks together.
She was having a birthday party the next week and I promised to visit her on her birthday. But when I went the next week, I never saw her at the bar. She was nice. Very nice. But when I asked her about why she had stopped working at the go go bar where I had boom boomed her she told me that she didn’t like the bar owner. This girl was about as straight a girl as you will find in a go go bar. So I figured she didn’t like working in the Pattaya clip joints
We now go back to only a couple of weeks ago.
The tall girl had a sister working with her at her go go, which was complete bullshit I think. Anyways, we were all in that place together and two girls were sitting with Billy Bob and me. I had way too much tequila that night and so had the girl who was sitting with me.
We were all sittin in front of this long stage where several girls were dancing in front of the long couch we were all sitting on. The sister got so drunk on tequila that she kept pulling my dick out of my shorts and showing it off to the girls dancing in front of us. But when I offered to take the girl upstairs, she refused.
In fact she didn’t even offer me a price. Not 1000 baht. Not 2000 baht or even 5000 baht. She only told me that she hated the mamasan. So she and the girl sitting with Billy Bob started talking up a party to be held in my condo building. They were from Sattahip or Ban Serai. I figured this wasn’t going to be happening because it was a long say from Sattahip and my condo.
But brother, was I wrong.
Three times those two girls came to my condo building looking for me.
And I can guarantee I’d be boom booming the girl who had kept playing with my dick for 1000 baht. And not just for short time. I mean long time. Anyways I don’t go around bringing just any girl up to my condo. That’s my private castle. So I wound up giving the entire thing a pass. And now I think both girls are over working upstairs at the Windmill down on Walking Street.
I have never seen a customer ever take a girl upstairs in that go go girl those girls used to work for. Not since I took that girl up there for 800 baht over a year ago. The place is a one of many go go Pattaya clip joints. And the smarter and more honorable girls know it. They aren’t likely to be staying there for very long.