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Because so many Japanese men are shy, polite, and wish to avoid conflict they fall prey too often to Pattaya Go Go Bars which victimize their Japanese customers who pay too much for too little. Our mission is to help Japanese men get a lot more for a lot less money when they deal with Pattaya bar girls

Japanese wanting cheaper go-go girls on Pattaya Walking Street

Tired of go-go dancers wanting 1000-1500 baht bar fines and 2000 short time sex?  Japanese wanting cheaper go-go girls read on.

Japanese wanting cheaper go-go girls
Japanese wanting cheaper go-go girls need to continue reading this article in its entirety. They might be getting respect from their colleagues. But the rest of us have zero respect for a man who throws his money around.

In fact, I would be very angry about the way I’m being treated in the Walking Street go-go bars and the kinds of things the girls might be saying about me.

So here’s what I’d do if I were Japanese.

Or anyone with the slightest degree of self respect who wants to have the best possible time at reasonable prices.  But if you are Japanese and you are reading this, you will want to know what people are saying about you.  So that you can change the negative perceptions that  Thais have of Japanese men who frequent go-go bars.  I can say with utmost certainty that Japanese wanting cheaper go-go girls are going to get a lot more respect from Thai go go dancers than the Japanese who cave into their outrageous demands for more and more money.

First off there’s the old three point saying Europeans keep repeating to each other that goes around about Japanese tourists here in Pattaya:  “(1)  2 inches, (2) 5000 baht, (3) thirty seconds.” Let me first of all comment on the subject of 2 inch dicks.

Personally I don’t care if the average Japanese man, Thai man, Australian or whoever has a 2 inch or even a 12 inch dick. But I’d suggest that most men regardless of race have approximately the same size of penis as most other men regardless of nationality or race and that any variances are due to individual differences that have absolutely nothing to do with what country a man’s from.

Such comments are scornful.  But there it is.   People are still making these comments.  And it’s all because Japanese  behavior in  Pattaya’s go-go bar that breeds disrespect.

I know a Soi Six girl quite well who used to work at Bacchara, a go go bar on Walking Street.  When I asked her her much Japanese men typically paid for sex with go-go dancers,  she made the following comments. “They pay 1000 to 5000 baht for short time and THEY HAVE SMALL DICKS.

The only problem with this is months ago she had told me that she had only worked for two weeks at Club Bacchara.  And that she hadn’t really gone with any customers in that time period.  And although I consider her as one of Soi Six’s most desirable women  while she was working at Club Bacchara there must have been nearly one-hundred girls working there.  So she can hardly have ever been considered the queen of the ball at Bachara considering the huge amount of competition she found there.

Her first statement months ago might have been an accurate one.  That she might never have had a single Japanese customer in her entire two weeks on Walking Street.

But even if  she had a Japanese customer or two bar fine her, such a small number hardly gave her a large enough data base from which she could formulate a well-considered opinion on  Japanese dick size.

Back then the bar fines were 1000 baht.  Considering that she was 32 years old and most girls were at least ten years younger it is very likely that she didn’t do very well in her two weeks at Bacchara.  So it’s likely that she and other older girls were gossiping about the Japanese customers in a very negative way.

Now don’t get me wrong, I find this 32 year old woman to be extremely attractive. She has a beautiful body and a very cool way about her. She’s very pleasant to look at.  She has a very appealing sense of humor (to me).  And her sexual skills are awesome. But she looks–well–32.  For me if a woman is taking good care of herself, this puts her at her prime.  But that’s not the way a lot of other men see it. Bottom line is she didn’t do well at Bacchara.  So it’s plausible that she hung around with a lot of  girls who didn’t have a lot of good to say about the club’s very substantial  customer base of Japanese men frequenting the place.

And certainly many Japanese were making complete idiots of themselves in Bachara.

by paying exorbitant amounts of money so that they could hurl ping pong balls onto the stage.  While they watched the girls trample  all over each other for  ping pong balls that they could exchange for baht.

And how many times did we watch three or four go-go girls swarm around a single Japanese customer.  So that they could milk him out of thousands of baht for drinks.  and as for 5000 baht,

 the truth is many Japanese customers do pay 5000 baht for short time sex

while thinking they are getting a great deal for their money compared to what they’d be getting in Japan.

Sorry guys, such foolishness equates to 2 inch dicks to the Thais who have to service men who are so foolish as to pay large amounts of money for so little.  My take is that the men of Nippon deserve more respect.

Then again, like many tourists from the West, it can be said that intelligent tourists  who do quite well in their home countries, leave their brains at the airport and do the most incredibly irresponsible things once they get around the bar girls of Pattaya.

But if you want to know what is really galling to me, it’s that

over 80 percent of these Pattaya Walking Street go go girls have Thai boyfriends living off of them.  It is these men who have the 2 inch dicks; not the Japanese who actually work hard for a living, who are smart and very capable executives, doctors, factory owners, etc

Unfortunately that’s not the way most go-go girls perceive their Thai boyfriends and the much more capable and manly Japanese who frequent their go go bars.

Personally I want to see a lot of such attitudes change so let me start off by telling you how I handled a go go bar girl just a few days ago.

First off, the go-go girl is not one of the dancers. She’s a waitress or service girl. Most of the girls working at her bar are coyote girls commanding a 1000 to 1500 bar fine depending upon whether a customer bar fines the girl before or after midnight. Her bar fine was 800 baht which is more than I’m used to paying.  But still more acceptable than 1000 or 1500 baht.

So once I determined that her bar fine was a lot less than most of the dancers in her bar, I asked her how much she wanted for short time sex. Straight off she tells me she wants 2000 baht for short time so I ask her how much would she charge me if I boom boom her in the toilet.  I suppose she must have found my question to be very funny because she told me she’d have sex with me for 3000 baht in the toilet. I then told her I’d give her 1000 baht to bang her in a short time room.

So was this a good deal for her or wasn’t it?  First off when she gets a 800 baht bar fine, she’s going to split that with her bar so she’s getting 400 baht in her pocket.

She’s also gotten a couple free drinks off me.  And she’s going to get a commission off each drink she’s getting from me. So let’s say she makes a 100 baht commission on the two drinks plus 400 baht from the bar fine plus the 1000 baht I’m giving her for short time. This is 1500 baht to her which amounts to almost $50.00 U.S. money.

Now let’s suppose she didn’t accept my offer. Chances are at the end of the night she would have been 1500 baht poorer. Okay..let’s give her this. I leave. Other customers come in and buy drinks from her. Suppose she gets real lucky and makes 250 baht additional tips from her drink orders. She’s still 1250 baht richer with me than without me. So this is a great deal for her.

And what do I get out of this arrangement?  First off I’m saving 1000 baht on the basic short time price most of the dancers are charging . And by getting a waitress instead of a “super star go-go dancer” I’m paying only an 800 baht bar fine instead of 1000 or even 1500.

So how good was the sex compared to what I might have been getting from a high in demand go go dancer? Well, guys, let me tell you.  The sex was absolutely terrific. This Thai woman is tall. At 162 centimeters she’s nearly five foot four which is the height of the average American or European woman.  And her legs, stomach–the entirety of her body was so firm, so delectable.

Why my brother, Billy Bob’ been crowing about this particular waitress as being “Hot, Hot Hot” and having the most perfect body on Walking Street.

Friends, trust me, it doesn’t get any better than this. Plus I didn’t have any of this crappy ass, I’m Walking Street go go dancer super star attitude.  Which I get from too many go go dancers who cannot even begin to compete with my favorite Soi Six Girls.

So what’s my next move? Hopefully I will bar fine her again but she did tell me she’s going home for awhile and soon.  Okay, here’s how I play this one. If she’s in the club the next time I go to Walking Street, I will make a priority of bar fining her.

So I bar fine her and then I tell her, “Let’s just have one or two tequilas at Crazy House Go-go before we go short time.

She will accept, I can almost guarantee that and when I do there’s a good chance she’s going to be talking to at least one of the go go dancers there.  And when she does the first thing that’s going to be discussed is money.  So she will be asking  “How much money is this American paying you for short time?”

There’s a good chance she might actually tell the truth and tell the girl she’s getting just 1000 baht. And even if she doesn’t, I just happen to know one of the service girls at Crazy House so the next time I go there  I will be sure to tell her that I paid 1000 baht to boom boom the service girl from the other go-go bar. Even if I don’t if one of the more attractive dancers sits with me, I’m going to be telling her I pay just 1000 baht short time.  And the girl I brought in the other night got 1000 baht from me and we will be doing it again.

Now let’s suppose the next time I go into the waitresse’s bar and she’s not there? I can about guarantee that one of the other girls will wanting to steal me away from the waitress and when she comes around me trying to feel my older than God penis up, I will be telling her my price is 1000 baht for short time.

So what I have done is I have established my price at 1000 baht, no more or no less.

One thing I’m not going to do and that is to be paying the tourist rate of 2000-2500 baht for a short time. I might even go to Super Babes where there’s one or two good looking waitresses and bar fine one of them. I think even the bar fines for most of the go go dancers is still around 600 baht and once I bar fine someone there and give the girl 1000 baht for short time, I can tell the next girl “my price is 1000 baht.”

So here’s the deal guys. In Thailand money is number one.

One might say that in Japan honor is number one or that it is important to have a great education, to do the best job possible, to tell the truth, and so on. That’s what I admire about Japan, and believe me, in general I like Japanese people very much.

But a lot of Thais do not respect this. They see English, German or American men ringing the bell and buying drinks for an entire bar and they lose respect for the customer for parting with his money so foolishly and for nothing. They see Japanese men buying up a lot of ping pong balls and throwing it at the girls.  And they perceive this as “stupidly throwing money away.” The employees and go-go girls are now perceiving their Japanese customers as the easiest of all to take advantage of.  But the truth is Japanese men do not deserve so little respect. I will now put one last thought in your minds.

When I was bar fining the waitress the mamasan came up to us and asked me, “What are you giving her?” If I were Japanese I might have been polite and said, “one thousand baht.”

If I had been polite, the mamasan would have then said, “Why you can’t do that. You must give her 1500 baht or 2000 baht.” So what happens then? The mamasan would have demanded the higher price and if I wouldn’t pay it she would have told the waitress–“ you can’t go with this customer. You must stay and take care of the customers as a waitress.” If I caved into the mamasan’s demands she would told the waitress later on, “Look, I got you a higher price than you were asking so I want a share of the increased money I got for you.”

Lesson to be learned is this…NEVER, NEVER DEAL WITH THE MAMASAN. I told the mamasan that what I was giving the waitress was up to me and up to the waitress and not up to her. In other words, I was telling her this is none of your business so fuck off.

But I put it a little more nicely than that. So there it is….work it out between yourselves and get that price down—a lot. Even if you can’t speak English or Thai use sign language if you have to or get one of your Japanese buddies to help you out.

Just remember that a lot of these go go girls are going home alone. They need the money. And most of them need a lot of help on how the math works out, that a thousand baht is a lot better than not getting barfined.   If you get that price down (a lot) and stop throwing all those ping pong balls these girls will respect you a lot more.   And even if they don’t, who cares.  Money is, after all, number one.  Just make sure you are not getting the short end of the stick  when it comes to the money. Above all remember that Japanese wanting cheaper go-go girls get a lot more respect than the Japanese customer who simply agrees to whatever the mamasans and go go dancers demand.

If you are Japanese you will especially enjoy reading Japanese Politeness is Ruining Walking Street.  Because it represents the personal views of a lifelong friend of mine who just happens to be Japanese.

Japanese politeness is ruining Pattaya Walking Street

Ironically it is Japanese politeness that is ruining the Pattaya Walking Street go go bars.  The cause is Japanese men agreeing to outrageous pricing.

With the word getting out  how much cheaper it is to buy sex in Pattaya than in Japan,

I know about Japanese politeness personally
My good friend Takoi and my Thai girlfriend in Tokyo 5 years ago. Takoi and I became good friends when we were in our mid twenties. I was getting my MBA from St. Louis University while he was getting his Masters in Engineering. Now that over 40 years have passed we are still great friends.  So is my friend oftentimes over polite?  You bet he is.  He’s Japanese and a great friend.

Japanese tour groups have gone overboard in targeting Pattaya as a premiere hunting ground for beautiful available women.

Although not long ago certain go go bars such as Super Girls, Super Babes and Baccharat have been targeting  the Japanese, the incursion of Japanese men had been limited only to a few clubs.

This incursion has recently become an invasion that has taken over most of the Walking Street Go Go bars.   This pestilence has been the ruination of the Walking Street go go bars.  And the pestilence cuts two ways.  1.  It’s ruinous  for those who are unwilling to pay the outrageously high prices Japanese men are willing to pay.  And 2. Even the Japanese  will seek cheaper countries when their Pattaya go bar playground’s pricing gets too high.

There are currently seven go go bars that have the same owners. These include the Lighthouse, Crazy House, Bacchara, and the Shark Club.

Back in 2006, most of Pattaya’s Go Go bars charged 600 baht bar fines of 600 baht while the girls charged 1000 baht for short time and 1500 baht long time.  With the American dollar at 40 baht, this meant that a man could bar fine a go go girl for $15.00.   Take her home  for $25.00.   All for just $40.00.

Fast forward to the present now that hordes of Japanese tourists have descended on Pattaya’s go go bars.  And how Japanese politeness is ruining the Walking Street Go Go bars for everyone.

  The typical bar fine is currently 1000 to 1500 baht now that the coyote way of doing business has come to dominate the Walking Street go go bars.  Meanwhile short time prices have escalated to  2000 baht to 2500 baht.

At today’s exchange rate of 32 baht to the American dollar this represents $100 to $125.00 for just one short time and that’s not even including all the high priced drinks one’s likely to consume beforehand.

It’s not going to be very long before we will be approaching $200.00 for a single short time with a Pattaya go go girl.    One of the primary reasons for this is Japanese politeness.  Specifically it’s  when Japanese men  too readily agree to  the outrageous demands  go go bars and the girls are ramming down their throats.

Take the practice of convincing a go go bar’s customers into buying all those ridiculously priced ping pong balls

Customers throw the ping pong balls at the go go girls.  Who then scurry shamelessly across the floor on their hands and knees trying to gather as many as they can.  The girls then turn in their captured ping pong balls for cash.

You’ve seen the signs on the walls of the go go bars.  Especially on the bathroom walls screaming out at the customers.

“Be a nice guy.  Be a real king among men and buy fifty ping pong falls for a measly 3000 baht?”

Good God, that’s a hundred American dollars and for what?

If you ever see an Englishman or an American falling for this ruse, you are looking at one real stupid sad sack of a man.  I mean really!  But the Japanese are not stupid.  They just seem to be and it’s all on account of their confounded Japanese politeness.

What does a man gain by spending a hundred dollars just to watch a bunch of money hungry women groveling around a floor.   This pantomime  proves conclusively that money is indeed number one in Thailand.   These dumb shows only remind me that a woman is willing to do anything  to get it?

This is in Kyoto almost 4 years ago.  

Does a man get the sexual experience of a lifetime from buying all those stupid ping pong balls?

He should, at those insane price levels.   No self respecting Englishman or American would ever do that.  And if you ever see an American, Englishman or even a German doing it, you can be sure that this man needs to go to a mental institution.

“So why do you Japanese indulge yourselves in such Ping Pong madness?”

“I’ll answer that.”

“It’s because of your confounded Japanese politeness.”

I think you Japanese are very different.

Japanese men are typically polite people who build damn good cars, motorcycles, television sets and wonderful optical  instruments such as cameras and binoculars.

You are making great advances in global climate change.   To my notion you are the most admirable people in Asia.  You are obviously far from stupid.  But you do like to avoid conflict and are not the kind given to haggle over prices.  Especially when it comes to a group of men who have set out on an evening enjoying themselves.

Especially in Pattaya where a man can easily get beaten up or killed for protesting against being overcharged.

My girlfriend always wanted to see snow. Problem was we go to the U.S. in August. When there’s no snow. Ironically we saw too much snow when we went to Japan nearly 4 years ago. A blizzard caused us to miss the miss that would have taken us to our hotel in Tokyo from the airport. So we took a taxi. There was a lot of snow and ice on the road and the taxi spun out and hit the railing. The impact caused my head to strike the taxi’s window. But not too hard. I wasn’t really hurt, but too bad for the taxi driver who would have to pay the damages to his vehicle. He took it in stride, however. It’s the Japanese politeness that kept him from losing his cool.

I can’t ever forget that old Irish friend of mine who got the hell beaten out of him by Thais.

And only because he refused to buy a drink for a Soi 7 bar girl.  The girl asked him to buy her a drink.  He refused.

This didn’t matter to the Englishman who owned the bar,  When my Irish friend finally asked for his bill he noticed he had been charged for a lady drink for the girl he didn’t order.  The English bar owner insisted that he pay the entire bill.  When he continued to protest the Englishman moved towards him in a threatening manner.  Which caused him to back into a Thai man. The Thai man then promptly punched my friends lights out while he was focusing on the menacing English bar owner.

When my friend finally came to the police were already there hovering over him.    Then he pointed at the English bar owner who was trying his utmost to hide from the police.  But the police simply ignored my Irish friend, and then they put him in jail.  By that time his Thai assailant had already disappeared.

This story is not something I had just read about or what someone told me about in a bar.  I was the one who got the phone call from the Irishman and it was I who went down to the police station at 5:30 in the morning to bail him out.

My friend’s face looked like hamburger.  His eyes were two solid red colored orbs minus both the retina and pupil.

I  had to take him home on my motorcycle.  And got to see for myself how the Thai criminal justice system works.

How many times have the Walking Street go go bars overcharged me for drinks ?  And how many times have I had to put up with a go go girl bringing a second girl to my table.  Only to have the girl tell me I should buy drinks for both of them because the second girl was her sister?

Sister my ass!  I learned that trick over 8 years ago, so don’t try to pull it on me.

Truth is most Pattaya go go bars treat their customers despicably.

I really like most Japanese men, but hey guys, it’s us against them.  I mean you who are Japanese and me, and I’m American.    It’s time that you start to recognize who the real enemy is and that’s the  high prices the go go bars are charging us.

Those high prices are already getting to be so high that soon you won’t want to be coming here anymore.   You are a very intelligent, high minded race of people.  It’s high time that everyone cooperate together to keep Pattaya Walking Street from becoming a place you will never want to go back to.

As to Japanese politeness, hey I love it, especially when I’m visiting Japan.  Like last February when all you Japanese treated me like a king.  Yep.  That was in Tokyo and Kyoto.  But when it comes to Walking Street go go bars, it’s far better to question the prices of everything.  From what we are being charged for our drinks, to bar fines, to the tips we pay the girls.  With or without the sex.  We are, after all, in this together.  Aren’t we?

 As for all those ping pong balls, please deposit them in the nearest toilet where they belong. And all your Japanese politeness?  Please leave it at home where it is appreciated.

Japanese men Pattaya Go Go Bars is what this category is about

Japanese men  Pattaya Go Go Bars getting cheaper and far better treatment from Pattaya go go bars and bar girls is what this category is all about. Some of this site’s other categories are go go bars, beer bars, you tube videos, etc.  So if you are Japanese you might be wondering why am I putting Japanese men Pattaya go go bars in a special category of their own?  Why haven’t I chosen Australians, Germans, or Englishmen or any other national group other than Japanese?  Because of a long lost friendship, and that friendship newly found, I have found a special place for Nippon in my heart, its core values, and the fact that Japanese in general do so many things so well.

This includes most Japanese men Pattaya Go Go Bars who treat go go dancers  too well for their own good.

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Japanese men Pattaya go go bars
Japanese men Pattaya go go bars. The two are coming together as Japanese men do not only not have problems overpaying for women in the go go bars. They savor it.

Just two weeks ago, I returned from a trip to Japan where I visited Tokyo and Kyoto.  I knew you Japanese would treat me well, but what I found far exceeded my expectations.

I was meeting up with a great friend of mine who I had not seen for over 15 years.  We had first met in St. Louis while he was getting his Masters Degree in Engineering from Washington University.  While I was getting my MBA from St. Louis University.  That was forty years ago when I was 26 and my friend was 22.  After T returned to Tokyo, I visited Japan in 1982 where we met again.  By this time my friend was married, and T and his wife started having children.  He visited my father and me in the U.S. several years later.

T told us how expensive things had gotten in Japan.  And how the family business was finding it more and more difficult to compete with other Asian countries that could produce the same products far cheaper.  I came up with an idea for him about a product line that he could offer.  The  next thing I knew was that he had taken my advice and moved to another country in Asia where he and his family remained for over 20 years.

Then my father died.  The house was sold.  I moved from my farm.  And my Japanese friend and I were no longer able to find each other.  I searched for my good friend on the internet, found nothing. And concluded that I’d never see him again.  And then a Christmas card arrived at my farm from Japan, and the people living there e-mailed me it came from Japan.  I sent a letter to T’s address in Japan which included my email address.  And my old friend and I were once again in contact.

While my young Thai girlfriend and I were in Japan, T went way beyond anything even the closest friends do for each other.

The service we got at both our Tokyo  and Kyoto hotels was exceptional, but it was the hotel in Kyoto that impressed my Thai girlfriend the most.  She said, “In Thailand a hotel gives good service because the hotel considers money to be number one, but here (in Japan) it comes from the heart.”  My girlfriend recognized that our Japanese hosts prided themselves not only on giving great customer service and making their guests feel comfortable, but that their smiles were genuine because they really wanted for their guests to be happy and content.  Neither of us had ever felt this level of customer service anywhere else in the world.

By the time we got back to Thailand my girlfriend had developed a great love for Japanese food which she now ranks second only to Thai food and way above Vietnamese or Malaysian cuisine.  And she had certainly gained a huge respect for the Japanese people.

By now you are probably asking yourselves, what does all this have to do with my keywords here, Japanese men Pattaya go go bars?

That question had popped up while my girlfriend and I were having dinner over at T’s home in Tokyo.  I had asked my friend, “what is it with all these Japanese men in Pattaya go go bars?  They buy all these ping pong balls.  So that they can throw them at the bar girls. The girls then get 100 baht for each ping pong ball they can scoop up.  And Japanese men in Pattaya Go Go Bars are notorious for giving the bar girls huge tips just for sitting with them.  Then if they take the bar girls back to their hotels  for sex they pay them three times what my friends and I would ever think of paying them.  Consider what Stickman’s remarks about Japanese overpaying  Pattaya bar girls.

My Japanese friend replied to me, “Most Japanese men in Pattaya go go bars are shy. Most of them do not speak good English.

They don’t know how to act in go go bars and they don’t know what is expected of them.  So when the go go bar, the mamasan, or go go girl tells them the price of anything most Japanese men in Pattaya Go Go Bars will simply agree to it because they don’t want to have any problems and want to avoid conflict.”

My friend told me Pattaya Go Go Bars are punishing Japanese men  for being gentlemen.  For being good guys and for not being trouble makers.  The truth is that most bar girls take gentlemanly conduct for weakness.  And then they descend on kind and considerate men  like vultures.  Hoping to rip as much money out of their prey in the shortest time possible.  Most of the Japanese men in Pattaya Go Go Bars do not deserve such bad treatment.  Hopefully they can learn from this how to cope  with Pattaya go go bars.

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